docs(lifetimes): one owner comparison in place of the raise enumeration - #160
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…ed `&` to one root
`lifetimes.md` §1.1 compares scopes when an `&` is assigned, and that
comparison holds for an `&` symbol, whose scope is fixed at its declaration.
An `&` field's scope is its container's, which a move can change, so the
comparison could be falsified afterwards by a statement that never touches
the field.
Two rules carry it past construction:
- §1.10 — an assignment into an `&` field or element is legal only when the
destination and source paths begin with the same root symbol. The callee in
`setEngine(this Car, engine &Engine)` cannot see where the caller's argument
is hosted relative to the object `this` names, so a store across two roots
has nothing to compare. `memory.md` §2.9's ban on binding a swallowed
parameter into `&` storage becomes an instance of this rather than a rule
standing on its own.
- §1.11 — raising a value that carries a guest re-checks what those guests
name, against the destination. A raise is a move to a higher scope, a
return, or an argument that another parameter may take. A guest naming a
host inside the raised value satisfies any destination, which is what a
constructor's `init{ }` settles for capability injection.
A guest parameter is therefore readable, mutable, and returnable, but stored
only within the tree it is reached through; a verb that must hold a reference
past the call takes hosting of it first. Ripples through `memory.md` §2.5/§2.9,
`functions.md` §2.4/§2.8, `types.md` §3.9, and glossary §3.33/§3.37, plus a new
§3.42 for the carried guest.
Refs #153.
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📝 WalkthroughWalkthroughThe specification replaces lexical same-root rules with owner-lifetime checks for guest storage. It defines carried guests, validates values during movement and calls, and updates examples and summaries for cross-root storage. ChangesGuest lifetime rules
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In `@spec/glossary.md`:
- Around line 272-276: Update the “carried guest” definition to state that the
owning-edge walk includes direct & members as terminal guests, while not
traversing through the referenced objects; also correct the malformed wording
without changing the surrounding re-check semantics.
In `@spec/lifetimes.md`:
- Around line 243-244: Update the §1.10 wording to consistently say “& field
or element”: rename the heading in spec/lifetimes.md (lines 243-244), update the
guest-storage definition in spec/glossary.md (line 228), update the root-rule
description in spec/types.md (line 319), and include element storage in the
&T parameter contract in spec/functions.md (line 116).
- Line 268: Align the constructor exception with spec/types.md §3.9: in
spec/lifetimes.md lines 268-268, make explicit that init{} may write & fields
from any parameter; in stories/lifetimes.md lines 252-264, qualify the verb
restriction so it does not apply to exempt constructors; and in spec/memory.md
lines 268-268, exclude the init{} constructor case from the swallowed-parameter
prohibition.
In `@stories/lifetimes.md`:
- Line 218: Revise the claims around the same-root rule and tree membership to
limit the guarantee to addressed move and raise operations. Remove or qualify
statements asserting stability under every operation or that references cannot
outlive their targets, and preserve the unresolved status of host removal and
variant-slot replacement documented near the affected discussion.
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…ield/element wording Review findings on #160: - The carried-guest definition read as though an `&` member were excluded from the walk, which would have left a type's own `&` field carrying no guest — the primary case the rule exists for. Both §1.11 and glossary §3.42 now say the walk finds an `&` member and stops at it, and does not continue through it into what it names. - §1.10 said a constructor may write an `&` field from any of its parameters, contradicting `types.md` §3.9, which requires an `&T` parameter for that field. Narrowed to `&T` and cross-referenced. - §1.10's heading and its restatements in `glossary.md`, `types.md`, and `functions.md` named only `&` fields where the rule covers fields and elements alike. - §1.10 and the story claimed a stored guest "cannot outlive what it points at". The rule settles relocation, not destruction, and the change leaves host removal and variant case change open — both now say so. - The story's cost paragraph said "a verb", which includes constructors; narrowed to methods and functions. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> Claude-Session: https://claude.ai/code/session_01AKRCATr7zqQufM1ZBc3MYj
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279-279: 🗄️ Data Integrity & Integration | 🟠 Major | ⚡ Quick winDefine all argument-raise destinations.
When no other reference-type argument exists, define the destination as the call-site scope. Preserve the receiving host when the value moves into another parameter's storage or the return. Update the duplicate summary rule at line 355.
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In `@spec/lifetimes.md`:
- Line 252: Qualify the same-root lifetime guarantee in spec/lifetimes.md at
lines 252-252 and stories/lifetimes.md at lines 250-250 so the guest and its
target are coupled only during moves and raises/relocation, not unconditionally
destroyed together; update both descriptions consistently while leaving host
removal and variant-slot replacement behavior unresolved.
In `@stories/lifetimes.md`:
- Line 252: Update the “can no longer install” statement in the lifetime
documentation to apply only when the destination is rooted in a different root;
explicitly preserve that methods and functions may store a handed &T guest
when the source and destination share the same root.
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In `@spec/lifetimes.md`:
- Line 279: Update the argument-raise destination definition in the lifetimes
specification to use the call-site scope when no other reference-type argument
exists, while preserving the receiving host when the value moves into another
parameter’s storage or the return. Also update the duplicate summary rule to
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…ment-raise destination Second review round on #160: - §1.10 and the story said a stored guest and its target "are moved and destroyed together". The coupling the rule delivers is relocation: the guest travels with what it points at and goes when the tree goes. A host destroyed while its tree lives on is a separate matter, and saying so in the same sentence rather than walking it back in the next one. - §1.11's argument-raise bullet listed the other reference-type arguments and the return but left the destination undefined when a call has neither. It is the call-site scope, which the argument already sits in, so nothing is raised. Summary row updated to match. - The story's cost sentence said a method "can no longer install a guest it was handed", which is over-broad: a same-root store is still legal, just useless for installing into another object. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> Claude-Session: https://claude.ai/code/session_01AKRCATr7zqQufM1ZBc3MYj
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Answering the outside-diff finding on Valid, and fixed in e565e2a. The bullet listed the other reference-type arguments and the return, but said nothing about a call with neither —
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§1.11's first raise condition compared a value against "its source host", and
§1.2 gives a hosting verb result and a `#variant` case form no source host at
all. A fresh temporary carrying a guest therefore matched no raise condition
and was never checked:
result Expr = Expr.intLit("0")
{
innerTree Tree(Expr.intLit("5"))
result = Expr.flip(innerTree.root) // unchecked
} // innerTree destroyed; result.flip dangles
This is #153's second reproduction with the intermediate binding inlined. The
two-step form is caught, because the binding is a direct host symbol with a
source host; the one-step form slipped through.
Such a value re-parents nothing, which is why §1.4 waves it through — but what
it carries is a separate question, and the comparison is against the host it
comes to rest in. Stated as its own raise condition, with an example and a
Summary row to match.
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Flagging a normative change made after the two review rounds, so a later reader doesn't have to diff to find it: §1.11 gained a fourth raise condition in The gap it closes is #153's own second reproduction, with the intermediate binding inlined: §1.11's first condition compared a value against "its source host", and §1.2 gives a hosting verb result and a Now stated as its own condition: such a value re-parents nothing, which is why §1.4 waves it through, but what it carries is a separate question and is compared against the host it comes to rest in. Example and Summary row added to match. Two notes for whoever reviews this:
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Inserting the no-source-host condition made 'the third form' point at the wrong bullet. Naming the form instead of its ordinal keeps the prose correct if the list grows again. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> Claude-Session: https://claude.ai/code/session_01AKRCATr7zqQufM1ZBc3MYj
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339-339: 🗄️ Data Integrity & Integration | 🟠 Major | ⚡ Quick winLimit the null-guest guarantee to covered cases.
Line 339 states that scope rules prevent guests from outliving their hosts. This conflicts with
stories/lifetimes.mdLine 266, which leaves container-element removal and#variantreplacement unresolved. Those operations can destroy a host without relocating the value. Limit this guarantee to the guest-assignment and value-rehosting cases covered by §§1.1, 1.10, and 1.11.Proposed wording
- Because the scope rules prevent guests from outliving their hosts, the runtime does not expose a normal “null guest” programming model to the user. + For the guest-assignment and value-rehosting cases covered by §§1.1, 1.10, and 1.11, the runtime does not expose a normal “null guest” programming model. Host destruction without relocation remains outside this guarantee.🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
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In `@spec/lifetimes.md`:
- Line 366: Update the “Raising a guest-carrying value” summary to explicitly
name the destinations: another reference-type argument’s host, a returned host,
and the call-site fallback when neither exists. Replace “the return” with “a
returned host” and align the wording with the corresponding contract on Line
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…ns in the summary Review round three on #160: - §2.4 said the scope rules "prevent guests from outliving their hosts", which is broader than what this change delivers and contradicts the story chapter, where container removal and `#variant` case replacement are left open. The claim about the programming model stands — an `&` is never optional and never tested for emptiness — but the justification is now scoped to relocation, with host destruction inside a live tree named as the separate question §2.1 and `memory.md` §2.8.1 answer. - The Summary row ended with "when there is neither" without the two absent destinations immediately in front of it, and said "the return" where §1.11's body says "a returned host". Reworded to match the body. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> Claude-Session: https://claude.ai/code/session_01AKRCATr7zqQufM1ZBc3MYj
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Answering the outside-diff finding on §2.4 (null guests), which has no thread. Valid, and the more important of the two — fixed in 0108204. The sentence claimed "the scope rules prevent guests from outliving their hosts", unconditionally, which is broader than this change delivers and contradicts the story chapter where container removal and Worth noting the overclaim predates this PR — §2.4 said it of §1.1 alone before — but I expanded that sentence to name three rules, so it's mine to fix. Rather than qualifying the programming-model claim, I separated it from its justification. The claim itself is still unconditional and still true: an
That reads better than scoping the model claim, which would have implied a null guest is exposed in the uncovered cases — it isn't; there's no such state to expose. What's uncovered is a guest to a destroyed host, which is a different failure and is what #161 tracks. Round three: two findings, two fixed, one commit (0108204). Guards clean. Generated by Claude Code |
Every place now has an owner — a symbol's declaring block, a field's root
symbol's owner, or, for a parameter and a constructor's init{ }, a path in
the caller's frame. A store is legal only when every host the stored value
names, directly or through a guest it carries, has an owner that outlives
the destination's owner. An assignment, a move, a return, and an argument
are all stores.
That subsumes the same-root rule and the four raise forms it needed as a
patch: a field is not confined to its own tree, it inherits its root's
owner, and any store that relocates the value asks the comparison again.
§1.10 now defines the carried-guest walk it uses; §1.11 states the
resting-place summary a signature publishes so a call can substitute its
own argument paths. §1.4 and §1.7 become readings of the one rule.
A verb may store an &T parameter again, so setEngine is legal to define
and its calls are checked instead. Binding a swallowed parameter into &
storage stays illegal — the caller has already given up the host, so there
is no path left to compare.
Rewrites the tail of the branch's draft chapter to end where the store
restriction was found rather than at the same-root rule, and adds the
chapter that follows: a hosting tree and a lexical block are both
lifetimes, the root rule was the tree case in a syntactic disguise, and
the four raise forms were the patch over the init{ } carve-out the root
rule could not cover. Names the price — a verb's &-storing behaviour
becomes public API — and records that setEngine's death in the previous
chapter was rationalisation.
Also tightens adt.md's account of an & member to the owner comparison and
points its owning-edge walk at the carried-guest rule, and updates the
README stories row.
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@coderabbitai here is ### 1.11 A signature records where its parameters come to rest
A parameter has no owner in the body (§1.5), so a store that reaches one cannot be settled there. What the body settles instead is **where the value comes to rest**: when a verb stores a parameter into a place reachable from another parameter or from the result, the parameter and the path it lands in are part of that verb's signature. Each call substitutes its own argument paths for the parameters and applies §1.1.
```zane
Unit setIO(this Terminal, io &IO) mut {
this.io = io // recorded: io comes to rest at this.io
return Unit()
}
```
```zane
main Main()
main.terminal!setIO(main.io) // → main.terminal.io = main.io
// one block owns both: legal
{
ioInner IO()
main.terminal!setIO(ioInner) // → main.terminal.io = ioInner
} // ILLEGAL: this block does not outlive main's
```
A constructor is the same case. Its `init{ }` fills an object whose destination the body cannot see, so what the body can state is which parameters land in it:
```zane
Terminal(io &IO) => init{io} // recorded: io comes to rest at the result's io
```
```zane
main Main()
{
ioInner IO()
t Terminal(ioInner) // → t.io = ioInner; one block owns both: legal
main.terminal = t // ILLEGAL: t carries a guest owned by this block,
} // and main is owned above it
```
A swallowed `T` parameter is recorded the same way, and that is what settles an argument carrying a guest. Neither frame sees the problem alone — the argument reaches a parameter in the call-site scope, and inside the callee both parameters share it:
```zane
cars List<Car> = []
{
innerHolder Holder(Engine(Int(2)))
arriving Car(innerHolder.engine)
cars!append(arriving) // append records: car comes to rest in this's elements
} // → ILLEGAL: arriving carries a guest owned by this
// block, and cars is owned above it
```
The summary is **transitive**, in the way the effect summaries of [`effects.md`](effects.md) §5.2 are: a verb that hands a parameter to another verb inherits the resting places that call records for it. Without that, a guest could be laundered by passing it one frame further than the check looked.
```zane
Unit relay(this Terminal, io &IO) mut {
this!setIO(io) // recorded: io comes to rest at this.io, via setIO
return Unit()
}
```
The summary is derived from the body and published with the signature, so a call can be checked without the body in hand. A verb whose parameters come to rest nowhere records nothing, which is the common case; its calls need no substitution.
For an `&` field the callee must still declare the corresponding parameter `&T` ([`memory.md`](memory.md) §2.9, [`types.md`](types.md) §3.9). A swallowed value is hosted at the call site, so binding one into `&` storage would leave the field naming storage the caller may move out from under it, and no argument path the caller could supply would fix that.And the definition
Plus: a block outlives every block nested within it, and the hosts inside a stored value travel with it, taking the destination's owner. Two things I'd particularly like checked, since they're where I'd expect this to be underspecified:
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…types §1.11 uses Two gaps in §1.11 as written. The examples referenced a Main type that was never declared, leaving the reader to infer that terminal and io are both its members — which is the whole reason both paths resolve to main's owner. And the summary said "a place reachable from another parameter or from the result" without saying what a path may be made of. A recorded path is now owning steps only — field selections and "an element of" — the same edges the carried-guest walk follows, and it stops at an & for the same reason: what a guest names is hosted where the caller's argument path does not reach, so a verb storing into an object it only holds a guest to has no path to publish.
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…l substitutes Two things were stated too loosely. §1.1 said a field or element is owned by its root symbol's owner, without saying that this holds only of a path made of owning steps: step through an & and the place you land on belongs to a tree the root does not name, so it has no owner at all. Such a path may be read; it may not be a store destination. That is where the ban on storing through a held guest actually comes from, so §1.11 now cites it rather than restating it. §1.11 said 'a place reachable from another parameter or from the result' without bounding the path or saying what a call does with it. A recorded path is now a root — a parameter, possibly an &T one, or the result — followed by owning steps, with no index for a container element since all of them share its owner. A call substitutes the supplied path for the root, keeps the recorded steps, and applies §1.1 to the result.
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Valid, and pushing on it turned up a defect one section earlier. Fixed in The path language is now bounded. A recorded path is a root — a parameter, or the result — followed by owning steps: field selections and "an element of" for a container. No index is recorded, because every element of a container shares its owner, so the index cannot change the verdict. Your Substitution is now stated. A call substitutes the supplied path — an argument path, or the path the result is bound into — for the root, keeps the recorded steps, and applies §1.1 to the resulting place. Where I went further than you asked. You suggested a path may use "every place projection that the body can use, including … projections through an
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In `@spec/glossary.md`:
- Line 273: Update the glossary definition’s final statement to preserve
validation of the value’s own host during stores and moves, clarifying that only
re-checking carried guests is omitted when no guest is present. Keep the
existing carried-guest and owning-edge behavior unchanged.
- Around line 277-281: Update the “owner” definition to restrict inherited
ownership for fields and elements to paths composed only of owning steps;
explicitly state that traversing an & step creates a no-owner boundary and
cannot produce a store destination, so paths such as main.peer.io are excluded.
In `@spec/lifetimes.md`:
- Around line 286-290: Update the variant example in the lifetime specification
to pass a direct host symbol as the argument to Expr.flip instead of the field
access innerTree.root. Ensure that symbol’s value carries an & reference to the
inner host, satisfying the move-source requirement before demonstrating the
carried-guest check.
- Around line 268-271: Revise the carried-guest definition in section 1.10 to
walk only the active payload of a `#variant` value, rather than every case in its
declared type. Preserve the existing owning-edge traversal and stop at the first
terminal &, while retaining the declared-type behavior for non-variant
values.
Apply the same fix in `@spec/glossary.md` around lines 272 - 273: The glossary
definition must match the active-case carried-guest rule.
Apply the same fix in `@spec/lifetimes.md` around lines 268 - 271: The summary row
must use the same active-case rule.
In `@stories/lifetimes.md`:
- Line 230: Update the return-root explanation near the carried-guest rule so it
reflects the owner-based behavior: both reference parameter modes can root
returned guests, with the argument path validated at the call site. Remove the
obsolete claim that only &T parameters qualify or that a swallowing T parameter
cannot be a guest source.
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The §1.10 example used Expr.flip(innerTree.root). A recursive #variant case carries a hosting payload and takes a move-source (adt.md §3.2), which a field access is not — so the example was rejected before the carried-guest check it was meant to show. It now uses a case with an & payload, which takes a guest source, and says why the two payload kinds differ. Also states what the walk reads: the declared type, every case of a #variant included, because which case is live is the flow-sensitive fact §1.3 refuses to track. The type decides whether to look; the value's construction, kept in the same block by §1.3, decides what is named. A case form supplying no & names nothing and the store passes. Glossary: §3.42 said a value carrying no guest is 'never re-checked', which reads as skipping §1.1 entirely — it skips the carried-guest comparison only. §3.43 inherited the owner clause §1.1 had already corrected, and now carries the owning-steps restriction and the no-owner boundary at an &.
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Active variant payload. The concern is right, the prescribed fix isn't. Walking only the active case needs to know which case is live, which is the maybe-active lattice §1.3 exists to refuse — adopting it would reintroduce the flow analysis this document is organised around not having. What was actually missing is that the walk and the comparison do different jobs. §1.10 now says: the walk reads the declared type — every case of a Return-root explanation in the story — declining. The lines you cite (179–181) are in "Where a guest may be rooted", which is merged history, not part of this PR's diff. They are also already withdrawn, by the very next chapter — "The root rule that got shorter" opens by naming that claim and retracting it: "Both of those reasons have since been withdrawn… A swallowing That is the mechanism this repo uses instead of editing: a later chapter says what stopped being true, naming the earlier claim. Editing 179–181 would violate the append-only rule and delete the record of why the current rule has the shape it does. Generated by Claude Code |
…t turned it down
A rejected alternative worth keeping because it is the road back if the
resting-place summary proves the wrong debt: init{ } as an empty template
rather than a constructor, filled field by field with init as its own
root. The root comparison then holds everywhere with no exception,
including inside a constructor, so Terminal(io &IO) => init{io} is illegal
and an & may only ever be created pointing inside the tree that will hold
it. No deferral, no substitution, no signature summary, and no init{ }
carve-out, because what the carve-out excused cannot happen.
What turned it down is wiring, in two places. A package cannot ship a
constructor that takes a guest, so every borrowing type leaks its
internals to whoever embeds it. And a standalone &-holding local stops
being expressible — an object holding a reference becomes a fragment of a
tree rather than a thing in its own right.
§1.11 points at it, since it is the alternative to the mechanism that
section describes.
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The chapter said a wrong effect summary 'costs precision and not safety', which holds only for a conservative over-approximation. What actually distinguishes the two is that effects have a safe direction that is also usable: effects.md §5.4 classifies an unseen callee at the strongest level and the program still compiles. The resting-place summary has a safe direction too, but its conservative default — every parameter may come to rest anywhere reachable — refuses nearly every call, so there is no degraded mode. The summary must be present and correct, not merely bounded, which is a heavier obligation than the analogy suggested.
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i think the chapter shouldnt accuse the previous chapter of overlooking escaping guests, as it was only made to address the special relaying edge case. maybe something like "with the issue solved from the previous chapter, there was still one edge case left ..."
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You're right, and I'd add that it was unfair in a second way: that chapter was about where a returned guest may be rooted once the borrow mode left. The field-escape case isn't a question it declined to answer — it's a question it never took up. Reading its silence as an assumption charges it with an oversight it couldn't have had.
Reframed in b0cb675, close to your wording:
With the returned-guest root settled, one case was still open — and it is not one the previous chapters had occasion to look at, because it is not a question about where a guest may be rooted or minted. It is a question about what happens to a guest afterwards.
The comparison §1.1 makes is exact for an
&symbol, whose scope is fixed the moment it is declared and cannot change afterwards. An&field is a different shape: its scope is its container's, and a container moves. So the comparison made when the field is written can be falsified later by a statement that never touches the field at all:
The technical content is unchanged — the parked = arriving example and everything after it stand. What's gone is the "quietly assumed" framing and the claim that the previous chapter's closing line was overreaching.
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…h an oversight The opening said the previous chapter 'quietly assumed' the scope check held for an & field. That chapter was about where a returned guest may be rooted once the borrow mode left; the field-escape case is not a question it took up, so reading its silence as an oversight is unfair to it. The chapter now opens by saying the earlier question was settled and this is a different one — not about where a guest may be rooted or minted, but about what happens to it afterwards. The technical content is unchanged.
…the length note Three review findings, all valid. Trimming §3.42 cut 'a type's own & field is the shortest case, found after no edges at all' as redundant. It was not: #160 added that clause to close exactly the reading it reintroduced, since a direct & member is reached after zero owning edges and 'reachable by following owning edges' can be read as excluding it. Restored as an explicit zero-or-more traversal. §3.37 said the subject parameter 'is always a guest'. True of a reference-type subject only — a value-type this is a borrow, which §3.38 says two entries later. The claim predates this PR; the trim preserved it because I re-read what I changed rather than what I kept, which is the failure the note in this same commit describes. CLAUDE.md claimed a two-sentence entry cannot contradict its canonical home. A short entry can be plain wrong; what it cannot do is go stale, having reproduced no structure to fall out of sync. Also records that a clause which looks like padding is sometimes a previous reviewer's fix, and to check with git log -S before cutting one.
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Closes the soundness gap in #153, and then replaces the first fix with a shorter one.
The gap
A check made when an
&field is written can be falsified by a later statement that never touches the field:§1.1fired at construction and was right.§1.4checks the move against the value's scopes and says nothing about what the value contains.What this does
Names the thing every rule in
§1was comparing without saying so: an owner.init{ }have no owner in the body — each stands for a path in the caller's frameA block outlives every block nested within it, and hosts inside a stored value travel with it and take the destination's owner. A path that steps through an
&has left its root's tree and has no owner at all: readable, never a store destination.Section map
§1.1§1.4§1.5,§1.7§1.8§1.10§1.11§2.4Ripples in
memory.md§2.5/§2.9,functions.md§2.4/§2.8,types.md§3.9,adt.md§4, andglossary.md(§3.33, §3.37, §3.42, plus a new §3.43 owner).What changes for a program
A verb may store an
&Tparameter again.setEngineis legal to define, and its calls are checked instead:That covers setters, registries, and anything wired after construction — a category the earlier version of this PR banned outright, replacing
setEnginewith aninstallEnginethat takes hosting.installEnginestays as the shape to reach for when the object should own the engine, not as a workaround.Binding a swallowed parameter into
&storage is still illegal, and now for a stateable reason: the caller gave up its host in the act of passing, so there is no path left on the source side for the comparison to name.The cost
A verb's
&-storing behaviour becomes public API — derived from the body, published with the signature, transitive so a guest cannot be laundered one frame further than the check looked.It is shaped like
effects.md§5.2 but carries a heavier obligation, and the difference is worth stating plainly. Effects have a safe direction that is also a usable one: §5.4 classifies a callee the compiler cannot see at the strongest level, which costs precision and nothing else, and the program still compiles. The conservative default here would have to be every parameter may come to rest anywhere reachable, which refuses very nearly every call. There is no degraded mode to fall back to, so the summary must be present and correct, not merely bounded.The earlier version of this PR bought its way out of that by making the storing verb inexpressible; there was nothing to summarise because there was nothing to store.
Story
Three chapters, all on this branch:
same root symbolwas the tree case in a syntactic disguise, and the four raise forms were the patch over theinit{ }carve-out that rule could not cover. It also records that the previous chapter's argument forsetEngine's death was rationalisation.init{ }as an empty template rather than a constructor, filled field by field withinitas its own root, which needs no summary and no carve-out. It was turned down on two costs, both written down: a package cannot ship a constructor that takes a guest, and a standalone&-holding local stops being expressible. Kept on record because this corner is significant enough that a future revisit should start from what we already know.Still open and deliberately not answered here: a host that dies while its tree lives on — a removed container element, a
#variantslot changing case. Neither is a store, so nothing here reaches them.