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- Around line 144-145: Update the previous_issue extraction in the proposal
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- Around line 124-125: Extend the proposal’s store-failure matrix to define
gateway responses, retryability, and reservation transitions for policy-read,
reservation, settlement, and consumption-write failures, distinguishing failures
before dispatch from failures after dispatch. Preserve the existing
stop-admission behavior and explicitly cover dispatched and unknown-usage
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- Around line 129-132: Define canonical token aggregation for input, output,
cached, and reasoning usage, explicitly assigning ownership for each field and
specifying how standalone values are counted. State the single billable
aggregation formula that both Internal K/V and Valkey implementations must
follow, ensuring cached and reasoning tokens already included in totals are not
double-counted.
- Around line 230-232: Update step 2 of the admission flow to require atomic
reservation of request and token rate-window capacity, alongside estimated
token/cost reservations across budget caps, before dispatch. Hard rules must
reject unavailable capacity; soft rules must atomically record reservations and
overages without blocking. Settle or release every reservation by attempt ID.
- Around line 251-254: Define the Redis Cluster hash-slot placement rule for
parent/child reservations in the tokenomics specification: all keys
participating in an atomic admission across a tenant hierarchy must use a shared
root-tenant hash tag, or specify an equivalent coordination mechanism that
preserves atomicity. Clarify that child rate-limit state and parent budget state
are colocated in the same slot while retaining separate rate-limit rules.
- Around line 288-292: Update the implementation plan around the Praxis
integration to explicitly define a Tokenomics-aware rate-limit filter, its
configuration path, and a Valkey-backed shared KV registry. Preserve explicit
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existing local Praxis filter and KV registry must be replaced or extended for
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I imagine there is some background story or some context that I am missing. I think there is some agreed upon understanding that I don't have. Is there some other material that should be consumed before reading this? I couldn't get much more from the issue really.
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Two nonblocking notes are attached: clarify whether soft mode retains the trusted per-request over-quota signal, and account for the base workflow when validating this proposal rename.
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Ready for review. Note that my intention is that this is NOT the final iteration before we say we're ready to start implementation, despite it having a lot of implementation details now. I still expect we have a couple more iterations to get this right, and that we need to be more concrete about where this lives, currently that would seem to be policy. cc @araujof @terylt @maleck13 @guicassolato @rikatz |
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I see all my efforts of avoiding using Redis as a ledger and conflate metering & admission control/rate-limiting have been vain. The reasons why such a conflation is desirable or needed are still not obvious to me reading this huge proposal, but I'll just take it as nonnegotiable at this stage. It'd probably be good to call out what problems/use-cases are we addressing by doing that in here. It is probably worth noting that this means PPE/Limitador Rate Limiting will not be composable into the Tokenomics solution as proposed here (as none of those are a ledge), but will call for a dedicated & standalone and/or dedicated solution. |
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Thanks, Alex. Nothing here is non-negotiable; this is still the stage for resolving these boundaries. The joint budget/rate atomicity requirement is worth a revisit. Budget reservations address concurrent requests spending the same allowance, but the combo likely needs to change. We'll also need to come to conclusions on what happens when a later check rejects a request. Redis isn’t a requirement in the current draft. The accounting guarantees are, and we'll need to be clear about which component owns them. Would separating QoS from budget accounting address your concern? If other requirements still prevent it, please identify those so we can work through them individually. |
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I shared a few comments and questions inline. I think my preference is to separate rate limiting from budget accounting and define how requests pass through both. Budget reservations need to protect the shared allowance, but I’m not yet convinced that rate counters must participate in the same transaction. We already need cancellation and recovery for requests rejected or interrupted after admission. Could we build on that, document the consequences of a failed cancellation, and require joint atomicity only if a concrete use case needs it? That would leave room for existing limiters without weakening the budget’s own accounting guarantees.
From a design standpoint, I’d share trusted identity, normalized usage, and an attempt identifier between the components. Each would own its accounting rules and state. The host would ensure every attempt gets finalized, including retries and interrupted streams. They could use the same storage infrastructure without requiring one combined transaction. Durable history would remain the budget manager’s responsibility.
| | **Internal K/V** | YAML supplies policies; Praxis maintains local accounting and renewal | | ||
| | **Highly-available store** | The budget manager supplies policies and operates the backing system; Praxis consumes the contract and records usage | |
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Could we also support YAML-defined budgets with shared counters for simpler deployments, while keeping the budget manager for managed policies, reconciliation, and durable history?
| **A root tenant _must_ specify `store`**, naming a K/V backend from [state | ||
| management]. Children inherit it. Never default or fall back to memory. |
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Could we specify which store implementations can safely reserve and settle a budget? Concurrent requests must not reserve the same allowance, and a settlement retry must not charge twice. I'd reject configurations that select a store without an accounting implementation providing those guarantees.
| again; denials consume no capacity and have separate metrics. Settle token | ||
| reservations against their original rate accounting, including late responses. |
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What happens when actual usage arrives after the rate limit's time window has passed? For example, if we reserved 100 tokens but the request used 1,000, do the extra 900 reduce the allowance for new requests? Could we add an example showing how this is counted?
| 3. Atomically reserve budget and applicable rate capacity before dispatch. A hard | ||
| denial leaves no partial holds; soft rules still reserve and record usage. |
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Could we keep rate checks separate from budget accounting, requiring both to pass before dispatch? For example, reserve budget, check the rate, and cancel the unused reservation if that check rejects. A failed cancellation would hold capacity until recovery confirms the release. Is that tradeoff acceptable, or does a use case require budget and rate updates to succeed or fail together, both at admission and at settlement?
| 4. Pin policy, price, allocation, and period to the attempt ID. Chargeable retries | ||
| and fallbacks get new IDs and admission, including rematching the model. | ||
| 5. Normalize actual usage from ordinary or streaming responses without buffering | ||
| the stream. Settle once, release unused capacity, and report consumption. | ||
| 6. Fully release only work proven never dispatched. Missing usage, disconnects, | ||
| and timeouts remain unresolved holds for reconciliation, never automatic refunds. |
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Which component sees every upstream attempt and owns its budget accounting? A retry may happen below the request pipeline, and a dropped stream may never reach the normal response callback. Could the host track each attempt and ensure its budget reservation is settled, canceled, or retained as unresolved, even when later policy steps don't run?
| Estimates can underrun actual usage. Record the full charge and block subsequent | ||
| hard admission without capacity. In local mode, unresolved holds remain charged | ||
| conservatively and visible for operator reconciliation; timers cannot erase them. |
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How does a local operator inspect and reconcile these budget holds? I'd include that recovery path in the first milestone, with a limit on retained holds and a defined response when it is reached. Soft mode could otherwise keep accepting requests while unresolved state grows.
| Settlement atomically updates accounting and records consumption. The manager | ||
| persists replayed records idempotently, then acknowledges them. Acknowledgment | ||
| permits cleanup, never a refund. Bound backlog without deleting unacknowledged | ||
| records; stop admission early enough to preserve room for in-flight settlements. |
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Once a consumption record is acknowledged and cleaned up, what prevents a delayed settlement retry from charging again? I'd separate record cleanup from attempt deduplication and specify how old retries are rejected after the deduplication records expire.
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It took me a while to consume all of this doc properly, and I'll be honest I probably still haven't. At a metalevel, I think this proposal tries to cover too much. Probably while also not taking the time necessary to really go deep into the problem space. I seem to see a bunch of plain contradictions in that doc, and it seems to lack addressing part of the problem, while being, possibly unintentionally, very prescriptive about the solution. In turn tho, that impacts the resulting system on those very aspects that the doc leaves out. Contradictions:
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Make AI spending a first-class control in Praxis.
This proposal defines Tokenomics: a common API for application budgets, token and cost accounting, and rate limits.
Praxis owns enforcement. Budget managers own durable history and managed infrastructure. A focused MVP establishes the contract for a broader Tokenomics ecosystem.
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