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Frechet Urysohn + Weakly First Countable + US => First countable#1627

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@felixpernegger felixpernegger commented Feb 11, 2026

The proof is the paper I cited is not correct as I mention in the PR. But it except for requiring US (giving $U$ open), it works completely, so I dont think we need to write it down again?

Also added metaproperty for WFC (intersect weak base $V$ with subspace to get $V'$. Clearly topology induced by this is not coarser than normal subspace topology, for converse suppose $Z \subseteq Y \subseteq X$ is open wrt weak basis in $Y$, then for each $x$ in $Z$ take $n$ big enough such that $V_n(x) \subseteq Y$ and $V'_n(x)\subseteq Z$, then clearly $V_n(x)\subseteq Z$, so $Z$ is open in $X$)

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prabau commented Feb 12, 2026

Siwiec says in section 1.7 "The Hausdorff axiom will be assumed in all that follows."
So it's not that the author erroneously does not require US; he assumes even more. We should rephrase something.

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yhx-12243 commented Feb 12, 2026

US suffices for this statement. The proof is same as T628.

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prabau commented Feb 12, 2026

I know US is sufficient. What I am saying is that we need to rephrase the justification to something like:
"the author makes the blanket assumption that spaces are Hausdorff (see section 1.7), but it is sufficient to assume US."
or something like that.

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prabau commented Feb 12, 2026

Siwiec Prop. 1.9 mentions that P228 is hereditary wrt closed sets. Can you check if it's easy to see? If so, we could add that metaprop. as well.

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yhx-12243 commented Feb 12, 2026

Yes it is. Just like P104, is open or closed hereditary (not marked in pi-base).

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prabau commented Feb 12, 2026

Yeah, we can add the same metaprops to P104 (symmetrizable).

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prabau commented Feb 13, 2026

Your last version looks good. Just one minor formatting suggestion below, so that the general fact is standalone.

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Co-authored-by: Patrick Rabau <[email protected]>
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prabau commented Feb 13, 2026

Everything looks good to me. Leaving it to @yhx-12243 to approve.

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prabau commented Feb 16, 2026

Approving

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