[Bug]: Serious Sam : The First Encounter VR | Index touchpad not supported

[PoorPocketsMcNewHold]

Operating System

Nobara 42

OpenXR Runtime

Monado

Describe the issue.

The game seems to use a legacy input method, which prevents proper full usage of the Index controllers. As a matter of fact, it still displays HTC Vive controllers.
Interestingly, the game defaults to a teleport mode by clicking the joystick, which works well. But when switching to a “Classic” mode, which should use those same joysticks to freely move around, it doesn't work and seems to require the touchpad for those. I would ideally rebind those, but they don't allow you to rebind those controls in-game for the Index Controller itself.

Steps to reproduce

1. Launch Serious Sam : The First Encounter VR (If you don't have it, I believe you can try to use the Serious Sam Fusion cross-game platform to load the demo level in VR)
2. Launch the game
3. Try moving (Teleport using cliquing the joystick)
4. Change the controls to "Classic".
5. Try moving again.

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[Supreeeme]

Can you set your steam launch options to RUST_LOG=debug %command% and provide the log? It's located at ~/.local/state/xrizer/xrizer.txt.

[hilloftheking]

Can you set your steam launch options to RUST_LOG=debug %command% and provide the log? It's located at ~/.local/state/xrizer/xrizer.txt.

I'm not the person who posted this issue, but I can provide my log for Serious Sam Fusion, which suffers from the same issue.

xrizer.txt
Sam2017_VR.log

[megagtrwrath]

Unfortunately, there is no bindings.json to edit for this game, and I can't find any appropriate places to do a manual re-binding or with enough to piece together how to do this.
The games bindings is done in poorly defined lua files.

There was some light discussion on this in the LVRA discord, but I am not sure any real progress will be made until there is a better understanding on this.

If there was some way for Xrizer or similar tools to do a manual export of a binding json with all potential actions, it would make working on this easier. (If this exists, please do say so I can see if an updated binding helps!)

[SeongGino]

So I'm guessing this is still an issue? At least when #364 isn't a factor, anyways - when SS Fusion was able to boot on my WiVRn/Oculus Quest 2 setup, the controllers were recognized as Vive Wands instead of Oculus Touch, and weren't functional enough to move at all.

[SeongGino]

Since that issue was down to a weird installation/configs problem(?) and I have the game booting again, it's definitely still an issue with Monado/WiVRn setups where non-Vive controllers are seen exclusively as Vive Wands and can't move if said controllers use joysticks. And since this game predates Steam Input bindings/actions, there's no way natively within xrizer to force the game to use a different controller--i.e. first gen Oculus Touch.

Interestingly, OpenComposite half-works in this case - at the very least, it does import the Oculus Touch controller (rendered in-game as the CV1/Rift S generation with the ring looping downwards instead of up as on Quest and newer)... as in singular; only the left one shows up. And uh, the tracking is... literally utterly broken so please don't actually try this.

[skryvel]

I'm unsure of the setup of the original report, but, with #394 I've attested this game to work with a Quest 3, with both teleport and classical movement styles.